Kona: Hi, good morning, I’m Kona Lisa Mahu with the Center for Planetary Management. We are a small Team today. And we’ll talk about that in a few minutes. We have Jacques in France, Bob in Texas, and myself in New York, USA. We are headed into our meditation to ground ourselves, center ourselves, and clear our minds, hearts, and spirits so we can connect clearly, with each other and with the Celestial Team that is always joining us from the other side. So, Jacques, please take it away.

Centering moment as a Team by Jacques

Jacques: Thank you, Kona. My friends another Friday, But, before we receive eventually a message, we need to relax our body, relax our mind, sit straight on our seat … Take some deep breaths. Now, we connect with the center of the universe to this beam of light the Golden Cord, going down to your crown chakra, through all your chakras, down to the core of the earth. With this connection, we are connected to the universe, receiving the Divine Love, a healing light, blessing light.

We ask our Thought Adjuster as well as our Guardian Angels to join and to stay close to us for this session. And as humans, we will connect as usual from our heart line clockwise around the globe, gathering those missing today. And we connect our mindal line counter-clockwise, so that as human, we are encircuited.

Now it is time to call our beloved Friends from above the Planetary Management Team: Machiventa, Sondjah, Asiah Melchizedek, and those Beings who want to join; the Midwayers, those far away from the Sea of Glass and our Stellar Friends because they can bring many things to us when they wish.

In these states, we stay silence for 3 minutes.

Opening Prayer by Evan

Bob: Our Heavenly Father, we think of it as an opportunity to be given to our small group today. I’m pretty sure you are active with us and lead and guide us in those things you want us to learn and grow in. Help us to come closer to you and your children than are helping us, like Machiventa, and Asiah. And then we come to know these Celestial Beings and know them in our hearts and minds, and develop relationships with them, develop our friendships with them, that we may be able to have them as helpers in our lives, and add to our lives daily in our daily activities, in our goings about.

And we have this relationship with our Celestial Partners, and come to know them as individuals, and come to know them as friends. Father, we appreciate you and all you have done for us, and all that you continue to do for us. Your guidance and direction, the energies and all that you’ve created, and all that has been created through you, through your Sons and Daughters. We appreciate these things and are thankful for these things, and say these things in the name of Christ Michael, Christ Jesus. Amen.

Jacques: Amen. Thank you, Bob, for your prayer. Kona do you feel a message to introduce the session today.

Kona: I’m still trying to do discern that, give me just a moment. I’m not perceiving a message right now, but maybe we can check back at the end of our meeting, and see if we have something then. We’ve done that before.

Group: Okay.

Group Dialogue & Discussion about the Magazine to be issued in June 2026

1. Kona read to the group a message from Evan titled: The Philippines — Living in a Chaotic World

Kona: Great. Thank you so much for that meditation and opening and prayer, Bob. So just a little bit of background for those of you who get this message at some point in the future. In our check-in, we’re discussing the ways of the world, the things that are happening in the world. We’re missing Juan today because where he is in Venezuela, he has no electricity, and the electric company is out of the propane gas. So we are in a bit of world crises in many different places, and Evan has written to us an article about what’s happening in the Philippines. And we have asked her to participate by sharing these things with us.

I’m going to pull up her letter and her article as part of the international perspective that we receive, so give me just a moment to pull that up. Alright, here we go. Kind of timely. Alright, you guys can see her letter. I can make it a little bit bigger, too. Oops, there, it’s very big.

So, draft article for Planetary Pulse. And she writes:

The Philippines — Living in a Chaotic World

The Philippines, long described as part of the so-called Third World, is a nation where contradictions thrive. That, by itself, says a lot — contradictions thrive. Towering malls rise beside crowded jeepney terminals, and digital startups coexist with families struggling to make ends meet. This is where chaos is not just endurable; it is part of the thread of daily life.

Consider the developing economy: there is rapid growth alongside persistent inequality. Filipinos are unique in that they are known for their hospitable nature, finding something to rejoice about in the midst of disasters like floods and fires, and largely indifferent to the failed promises of politicians they voted for, dismissing with a shrug sitting officials who don’t perform their duties.

Evan’s comment: give more details on the social problems faced by the people, such as, for example, bad smells coming out of the sewer.

And then from the AI notes:

“Here’s a structured outline you could use to expand your article, Living in a Chaotic World, after opening about the Philippines being labeled Third World. It flows towards your goal of showing readers how to acknowledge that government systems are failing and why awareness and rethinking are urgent.”

So this is where an insertion of the Seven Core Values can start, as people’s awareness needs to change. Give the reader enlightenment with celestial sources; it can assist in this paradigm shift.

Introduction

Philippines framed as a Third World nation
Contradictions of progress and poverty
Chaos is part of daily life: traffic, disasters, politics, and inequality
Transition: but the deeper danger is indifference, when people stop caring about broken systems

The Reality of Broken Systems

Governance gaps, corruption, inefficiency, bureaucracy
Public services where healthcare, education, and infrastructure are underfunded or mismanaged
The justice system is slow and unpredictable, often inaccessible to ordinary citizens
Result: citizens lose trust
Chaos becomes normalized

That’s a huge thing right there — chaos becomes normalized.

Indifference and Unpredictability

People disengage, believing their voices don’t matter
Elections become unpredictable, choices made without conviction or awareness
Leaders rise not from vision, but from spectacle or manipulation
Indifference sustains dysfunction

The Cost of Doing Nothing

If citizens remain passive, systems deteriorate further
Inequality widens
Corruption deepens
Crises multiply
Chaos shifts from temporary to permanent
The warning: if nothing is done, things can turn worse

Awakening to Awareness

Encourage people to acknowledge reality
Admit the system is not working
Promote critical thinking
Question narratives
Demand accountability
Highlight community engagement — a Bayanihan spirit as antidote to apathy

So I think this must be a Filipino term, which I would be interested to find out more from her.

Stress education and information
Awareness is the first step to reform

Rethinking Leadership and Participation

Citizens must rethink what leadership means, beyond charisma, toward competence and integrity
Participation isn’t just voting; it’s advocacy, community action, and holding leaders accountable
The message: chaos can be managed if people care enough to act

Conclusion
Living in a chaotic world is inevitable, but indifference is optional.

Bob: I would like that, too.

Jacques: Nice. Beautiful.

1. Then the group discuss the situation in their own country

Kona: Yeah, it’s a great place to start, and it’s perfect. If we were to look at our MIRO board, we have the international perspectives. This is definitely, you know, how often do you get that perspective of a lived experience there? Where chaos has become the norm and accepted. I find that striking.

Bob: It’s not just there, it’s here, too. For example, participation in our latest election, we have 6,444 registered voters in our city. We had less than 600 votes in the last election. We have 6,000.

Kona: So, it makes me question the validity of electing government officials anymore. What’s the point? If, like, in the Philippines, if the officials are not doing their job, what’s the answer? Is it really just to perpetuate that system, or is it to become community governance by community in smaller groups.

Bob: Even in our community, it is not active. And that’s what’s so sad. We have more activity on Facebook and stuff in our community than we do in our government. Which is sad, which is really sad. And the four people that ran for office. Two of them were elected. But unfortunately, it’s actually a little support. Which is so sad, because less than 10% of our community voted.

Kona: Only… That’s interesting. So what’s that like for you, Jacques? Because you live in a small community already. You said it’s only 800 people. How active are your people?

Jacques: The even the election we had a few weeks ago. You know, that we are not really democratic. But it came from the top management, from a background. For example, we are not able to cross people’s name to choose. It’s a one list. That’s it. One notion. And if you cross one name, it did not count. And this, you know, is to favor some people on some higher, you know, on some bigger city. So, yeah, even in France, what I see is people, they are not too interested in politics this day, because nothing happens. It’s a choice they made is wrong, we know. It’s a problem. We have a big debt now since a long time. And if you have opposition, you know, they manage, like in the U.S., you know, to manipulate the group. So today, we vote for groups. My personal opinion is I think we are looking for the collapse. People are waiting for something to go really wrong. Then it would be back to community, city, and so on. Because, you know, the debt is so high in France that the small communities have less and less money from the state, and we have not much money here to do something. So, people, they don’t vote that much, because they know the result. Nothing will be changed. So today, the election, our national election, is next year. But we see always the same people battling for the place. But they don’t really have a good program. And I don’t expect too much from these people. I expect nothing from these people today. I know. Unless a crash, and a financial crisis, big crisis. Probably then, when we will be on our own, I’m sure it would change. It’s my feeling.

Kona: So, do you think even your small communities would be ready if the federal government, let’s say, if your federal government was removed out of the picture, is your community tight enough where they would rally together to support each other?

Jacques: There is once you have put it in place, as they call it, gathering of small community. About 30 to 50 communities, small community of 150 people to up to 600 people. So I don’t know how many people it makes, but this is where the power will be. My community is too small, because we are only 150. But this group of small communities have really the power. They are really the power. If they want. But today, you know, we receive so many norms from the European Union. For example, you know, you cannot buy any more thermal cars. It’s all electric. I believe it’s quick. You cannot buy one. And the old one, they want to get rid of the old car. It’s why, for example, my daughter has to change something, because it’s just about pollution. But it’s about rule from the EU. So, the norms are so strong from Europe, and so on, but our community, look behind me to the small village, you see? Many gardens, many possibilities to survive. It’s not a problem, yeah. France also, we have many solar panels everywhere now. Everywhere. So we can survive easily. It’s just a transition, it would be hard.

Kona: Right, so if you were cut off from your federal government or the EU, then you would be self-sustaining and making your own decisions in this group of communities.

Jacques: Yeah, but still, I am, I want to or so have a European community strong, but not the way that we have today, you know. They are looking for, I don’t know. We do not have the power we should have. Look at the different systems in Europe. It’s not working well. We say no to your Trump for Iran, we say no, but what else?

Kona: Right, and what are your gas prices up to after this nonsense in the Gulf?

Jacques: It’s going a little bit down. We were at 2.50 euro per liter. And now we are 2.10 to 2.20. Just a little bit down, but it’s still too high for the people. For those who travel a lot for their work, it’s quite a lot.

Kona: So is it impacting your food sources? Does your moving food get impacted by the gas prices?

Jacques: A little bit, but, you know, here there is a strong community of gardeners. So if you go to the market, it’s people like me, but they go much more than me, but you can buy a lot of food here.

Kona: So you have lots of farmers markets there, lots of shared equipment.

Jacques: Oh, yes, a lot, oh yes, yes, yes, yes.

Kona: That’s good.

Bob: That’s great, that’s wonderful. In fact, that’s being self-sufficient.

Jacques: Yes.

Bob: Here in Texas, we have wide differences between communities. Like our community only had less than 10% voted, but there were some communities that well over half of the people vote. So it depends on the community. Like, Prosper is a very active community, and they were an active populace, and it’s much different than where I’m at. And it all depends on the community and what’s going on in that community. Because there is a variation here.

Kona: So, is your community where you’ve moved to, are there also lots of small farms and self-sustaining folks? Because it’s a small community. 6,000’s not very big.

Bob: It is a small community, but it’s right in the middle of a whole bunch of larger communities. And they’re just connected as part of the same city. I’m part of the Dallas complex, a metro area. And we don’t have much in the way of farms here. We have a few, but not many farms in the area. And I have to travel a good 20 minutes to get outside the city. I’m towards the outskirts of the city. It’s still taking me 20 minutes to get to the edge where there are farms.

Kona: Is that where your family is looking for farms, or further south?

Bob: It’s further south. We’re looking in the Corpus Christi and Orange Grove area. Which is a small and very small community, and it has a lot of properties on the outside. My family’s interested in property right now, but I don’t know if we can do it, because I’m still trying to pay off credit card debt.

Kona: Right.

Bob: And I think I should pay off my credit card debt before we should think about being active and looking for property, because I can’t pay both credit cards and mortgage at the same time.

Kona: Right. Of course. Well, here in Syracuse, of course, Syracuse is a small city, it’s not more than 65,000, I think, total, and that’s pretty spread out around the lake, Onondaga Lake. So that’s quite a large population over just a couple of counties. Inside of Atlanta was about the same population, but Atlanta was surrounded by 29 counties, so we had at least 6 million people in those 29 counties. Syracuse doesn’t have that same population, and it’s very agricultural. As soon as you are outside the city limits, you have all kinds of farming, you have cattle and grain and apples everywhere. This is a huge dairy community in this part of Central New York.

So, I think the people that are dependent on city services would struggle. But the farmers outside would not. I mean, they’re already supplying a lot to local communities, and it would just become centralized. My hope would be that it would stay centralized. So, for whatever reason, we got cut off from the federal government or had a gas crisis, you know, there are people that produce. But then how do you, if you’re not working, how do you trade? What do you barter? Do we have a monetary system? Does it become a barter system?

Bob: Well, actually, it would become part of a barter system, just like part of precious metals. Precious metals have always been pretty much a source of coinage in almost any dire situation.

Kona: If you have them.

Bob: I do have a few, but…

Kona: You have them. I’m talking about the general population. And if you’re the only one that has them, who are you still going to trade with? Because there are going to be people that need the food that you have that don’t have precious metals, and so what are you going to barter for? You know, we haven’t been on a barter system for 200 years.

Bob: Other things you can barter for, like writing materials, or books, or whatever, you can do all kinds of stuff you can barter for. If you have food, because a lot of people would be wanting the food, and you’d be able to barter with them and get things like that, if you want.

Kona: More people are going to have to learn how to farm for themselves.

Jacques: But, you know, here in France, I have a friend of mine. He grows potatoes. A few rows of potatoes, and he sold some of them in the market. But yes, to hide the potatoes behind some corn. Because, you know, people, when they don’t have money, they know where the potatoes are. And it’s very easy.

Kona: Has he had a problem with people stealing his potatoes?

Jacques: Oh, yes, yes, yeah.

Kona: Wow.

Jacques: Yeah, oh yes, if you plant something in the countryside alone there, people will help themselves. And it happened a lot.

Kona: Mm-hmm.

Jacques: The only thing that helps itself in my garden is the deer, you know?

Kona: The deer help themselves. As nature always will.

Jacques: Yeah. I had 24 salads, and 2 left.

Bob: We have a lawn here in front of our house and a lawn in the back, and I think we could change that into a garden quickly. We have a small herb garden here, but that’s about it. Not much of a garden, but we do have some citrus trees in large pots that we move in and out according to the weather and everything. And they have some limes on it, it has some lemons on it, but such fruit grows very slowly, and matures very slowly. Takes about 6 months for a lime to mature.

Kona: That’s pretty long.

Bob: It is. That’s one of the reasons citrus trees are in temperate areas where the temperature doesn’t vary that much, because it has to have almost a year-round growing season.

Kona: Well, I don’t think I realized that it took that long. I know I had a lemon tree on my porch in Atlanta. And it was fun. My granddaughter picked it out from Home Depot, so it was just a very small tree, but it was full of blossoms. And it had at least 30 mini lemons on it. And then the tree slowly dropped them, except for 3, and 3 grew to full size, and so when they were full size, I let her come over and pick them. But it did take all summer for that to happen. We got it in the spring, and it was almost in the fall when she was able to come and get those.

Bob: Yeah, it takes a while for the limes and lemons to grow. And oranges take even longer, our oranges take about 8 months to grow, from what I understand.

Kona: Wow. That is a long time. So we have… go ahead.

Jacques: But when you look at the fruit trees, I can look around. It starts early. Every time you have food to eat here, for example, I start to eat my cherries. It’s starting now, then the plums, and so on and so on. So, nature is well done. Always something to eat at any time.

Kona: Right. It’s seasonal. That is done growing while something else is continuing to grow. Yeah, that’s a good point.

Jacques: Yes.

Bob: Exactly right. And things like beans and peas and stuff can grow almost any time, if you have the right weather for it.

Kona: And I’ve even noticed that the apples in season here, different varieties of apples ripen at different times. They don’t all ripen at the same time. So they’ll have some apples that are ready the end of September, then the first week in October, it’s a different variety, then the second week in October, it’s a different variety. Every week, a new variety is ripe. And that’s fascinating. They don’t all ripen at the same time, so even there, Mother Nature is very good at supplying our needs.

So this is a great conversation about sustainability, things for you to write about, Bob, for the magazine and contribute, and we have articles from years to look at as well. Just as a reminder, though, as Machiventa and Sondjah have pointed out, to make sure that the greatest tragedy would be if you don’t have a relationship with spirit. So if you’re in the middle of a conflict or even chaos in your world, the most important thing is for you to have a relationship with spirit so that you can get the guidance that you need to survive that chaos. Alright, what else do we have on our agenda for today?

1. Group discussion about the Magazine: Do we have to mention the Celestial name or to refer to the Urantia Book?

Jacques: I would like to also speak about the magazine. The last time you had the fire alarm, we had a question altogether on this. That way, if we have a celestial question, it could be important. We have said with Bob, with Evan, Juan, and myself, that we want the magazine not to focus too much on the Urantia book vocabulary.

Kona: Right.

Jacques: We have said also, and it was a question for the Celestials, is it interesting to speak about celestial names as well? Do we have to mention Machiventa, Azahlah, and so on, Christ Michael, you see what I mean. Or we say more generally, the Celestials are saying, you know, or we say Jesus, and so on, because Jesus is well known, but if we speak about Machiventa or Azahlah, I don’t know. Is it wise to mention them? Because I think it’s a great question.

Kona: That’s a great question. So what ideas did you guys have from that conversation?

Jacques: Such a question we have, and one said, which is well known as well, what counts is the message, not the messenger, which is true. Because I try to imagine here going around my friends around me. They will see this magazine. The first impression counts a lot. Is it quite general, or is it deep knowing with names and so on? That’s my concern. I would not like people rejecting a magazine just because there are some names unknown to them. And probably, they said, like my wife said to me, you are completely lost. My husband, you are lost. Because you have to name when we say milk, unless you say the cow is Machiventa. So that’s a question we had. I don’t know what you think about it.

Bob: We have to be careful with that in the first issue. It’s how it presents Celestials. We might need to just ease into that a little bit, because it might be too much of a shock for some people.

Kona: Yeah, I think I’d have to pull back out the original article. The interesting thing in working with AI is AI is basically saying the same thing. AI basically said, if you don’t want to alienate your audience that’s not familiar with these terms, you need to be careful how you present them and do that slowly. So it might have, like, the cover article is not going to be heavy with the language, but the sub-articles might be. And one of the most important articles I know that I personally need to write is the introduction to the idea of TRing in relationship to people’s belief systems and where they’re coming from out of Christianity, or Islam, or whatever. I can’t speak to the other traditions, but how we can view this era and this epoch of celestial contact in comparison to the past. Because we’ve always had connections to Celestials.

Jacques: Yes.

Kona: But we’ve had it in a religious context, right? There have been mystics that people will recognize that they had a connection to Mother Mary. They saw Mother Mary. It’s known Catholics believe this very strongly. And so, what’s the difference between having a connection to Mother Mary, or having an experience with Mother Mary, in comparison to us having a conversation with Machiventa Melchizedek? We’re not putting a religious twist on it this time, right? We’re having a practical conversation. And so, these things have happened in the past. And drawing from that tradition, or those traditions, and bringing up the history and relating the history of conscious contact, or celestial contact, to put it into perspective, I think it’s going to be really important for this first article, this first issue.

Jacques: Yes. Yes, exactly.

Kona: And that is something that I’m very committed to doing. I don’t know if it’ll be in the cover article, or if it’ll be in the spiritual meaning-making section. But it’s going to be a way for people to kind of go, okay, what’s going on here? And it’s going to be a pretty solid article, just like Machiventa opened with: you have a history. Let’s talk about the history. You’ve been, humans have been talking to Celestials for a long, long time, but this is the first time it’s been for practical reasons and not religious situations. And that’s the only difference. And then how does that differ from, you know, because there’s a lot of channeling on the planet where people are talking to extra-dimensionals, whether they’re 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th dimensionals. We have people who are channeling. Near-death experiences, we can make comments on those things, but that’s not what we’re doing. We’re not claiming to talk to people in other dimensions. We’re literally working with a group of beings that have been in charge of this planet. And the core relationship is understanding who Jesus is. Now, people who don’t accept Christ Michael are going to have a problem no matter what we say, until they get used to the idea that, by the way, he’s kind of the creator of the universe, and so whether you like him or not, or you want to acknowledge him or not, is kind of beside the point.

Bob: You’re stuck with him.

Kona: Yeah, I mean, we’re really kind of here. And I have a funny story about that. There is a parable that Jesus told in, I can’t remember which book it is, but I wrote a paper on it. And my instructor didn’t like my paper at all. Because I read it, and I’ll have to share it with you guys, but I’ll try to summarize it. In this particular scripture, Jesus is giving a parable about a king who came from a place where he was not liked. They don’t even like me here, so I’m coming here to do this thing. And you may or may not like me, but I’m here. It’s a parable about a king, but it says very subtly in the parable that he was not liked where he came from.

And I picked up on that, and I thought that was very interesting, and it may very well be that Christ Michael is not the favorite son in the seven super-universes, because maybe he doesn’t do things like everybody else does. But it pointed to his kingship and his royalty, but he had a mission to come and do here, and he wasn’t even necessarily liked where he came from. And there are things like that in Scripture that are very subtle that most people don’t pick up on that I think are fascinating clues as to who Jesus was in the universe. And I’m going to try to pull from some of those things to make a connection. The fine line is saying, we know Jesus is the figure of Jesus who became the figurehead of what has become Christianity. But he didn’t found Christianity.

Bob: He wasn’t here to found Jewish Christianity. He was here to…

Kona: He came with a message, and humans founded Christianity in all of its good, bad, or otherwise, all over the planet. So we can’t blame Jesus for what people did with his message.

Bob: Especially all the rituals and stuff.

Kona: Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow, and so what are the clues in the Scripture that we know that point to him being something other than what Christianity has made him out to be? And that’s a huge part of my personal message in ministry. There is a whole lot more to Jesus than what people have decided out of the Bible and manipulated. If you look, there are a lot of clues as to who he is in the universe that are part of Scripture, but we don’t pay attention to those. And we pay more attention to Paul and Peter and the other books, but I stick with Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, and then we have the Urantia book. So there has to be some sort of a bridge for people who have that knowledge, depending on their generation, and then a disclaimer that says, well, if you don’t believe in Jesus, just skip this section. Go read something else. This is for people who believe in Jesus, and you need to know what the connection is to understand how we relate to the Jesus that you may or may not know or understand. Go ahead, Jacques.

Jacques: I would say, it’s not if you don’t like Jesus. I think the message is to say we have a Celestial Administration. You see what I mean. Because if we say, if you don’t believe in Jesus, just forget it, and here as well. But what we want to do, certainly, forget this section, this little piece. I come back to the remember the original of the Mission Urantia, and with Christ Michael’s voice. And the message was always, we are here, and we have a plan. And I think that’s what we want to say basically in our first article. Whatever the name, the hierarchy, they are here, and there is a plan. And they speak to people since a very long time. And we can say, as you said, long ago we have this personage, and so on and so on. But you can speak to this Celestial Administration because you have the tool, you have a contact within, which is well known, inner guide, and so on. And if we focus on that, it will work.

Kona: Yeah, agreed. Yeah. I think my point about Scripture and Jesus was that some people think he’s one and done. He came, he died, he left. And they don’t think about him as part of a Celestial Administration. They don’t think about universal governance.

Jacques: Mm-hmm.

Kona: That’s not how they think about him, but there are clues in Scripture about that, that he’s part of a bigger system, right? And I think even when he was compared to Melchizedek, Father Melchizedek, there are inferences to the Melchizedek in Scripture. There are multiple. Who were the Melchizedeks? And so, when we talk about Machiventa Melchizedek, we can say, well, he’s not a new name. He’s always been here. He’s come several times, right? This is the evidence where he’s been here, and he’s still here. He’s part of a Celestial Administration. So, at some point, I think we’re okay to introduce those. The only thing, we’re going to have to get, and the Celestials have told us that they’ll help guide us through the minutiae of creating these articles, right? And so we have the bigger picture, and then what are the small details that we need to share or not share? But just to get a base article.

Bob: I think that’s important.

Kona: Right. And then, you know, we do it just like we were told, not to try to over-edit, that they want us to give a particular message, and then they’ll bring the people to the message that need to see the message. And so we can’t over-edit to try to make it fit for everybody. There are going to be people that need to hear the message that they have, and so we’re going to have to trust the process that whether we’re naming folks or not naming folks, when we’re done with an article, if we feel confident that the Spirit has guided us, those are going to be the articles. It’s going to be the issue. Maybe our people won’t accept it, but somebody out there needs the material, and they’re going to be attracted to it, and it’s going to get into the right hands of the right people at the right time. That’s the part I think we need to trust.

Jacques: Yeah, but this was already confirmed by Sondjah. He said, you will not please every people.

Kona: Exactly.

Jacques: But that’s not the problem. What I understood is still, if we are too detailed, we can miss many of the people who will be interested, because I know many people around me, they think about this celestial connection. They read many books about the dialogue with angels, and so on, dialogue after life. And as I know it exists, but they have no clue that there is really an administration above. And even when I look at the scientists today, they say, maybe there is life on other planets. And I don’t understand why they just say maybe. They are never sure. It is never proven, and so on. It’s a pity to see this is all cool stuff.

Main Addresses with Asiah

Kona: So, let’s see if we can now ask our question to our Celestial Friends after our brainstorming.

Kona: So let’s take another meditation space. Let me get grounded here.

2. Guided Focus on the Core Message and don’t go into the details of this article

Asiah: Hi, good morning, this is Asiah, coming back to you from the great reaches, outreaches of the universe. In our fabulous technology that we can’t wait to share with you, I hear the question loud and clear. You’re wondering whether or not to use the names of different characters in the administration, and I will implore you once again to not get too caught up in the minutiae right now, the details of these articles. We will very carefully guide you along these ways. But speak to the core message at first, develop your outline, and what that core message looks like, and then we will help you fill in the details as they come along. I hope this brief message helps you with that. Do you have further questions?

Group Dialogue & Discussion with Sondjah

3. Expanding Humanity’s Awareness Beyond Earth

Jacques: Thank you, Asiah. So, you are still, if I understand well, on the Sea of Glass, nice travel, thank you for that information. My question, based on our discussion we previously had, is this: if I understand correctly what you have said, we do not necessarily need to go into great detail. Rather, the essence of the first message we want to share in our magazine is to let the public know that there is a Celestial Administration, that you are here, and that each individual can establish a personal connection with the Celestials, with their Thought Adjuster, or with their inner spiritual guide.

Is this the core message we should place at the forefront of our publication? Is this the right direction for us to take?

Asiah: So, I hear your question loud and clear, and let me give you a little bit of perspective. There is so much media on your planet relative to the galaxy and federations and characters that some may take this as fiction and not want to take it seriously. But whether or not they take it as fiction or they take it as real, the idea will be implanted into their person [mind] that there is something happening in the universe that is greater than this planet. And this is the message that we wish to implore.

And in fact, we are using these other mediums to plant the idea into the hearts and minds of human beings to expand their thinking beyond this temporal place that they live in. That there are, in fact, other beings in the universe that are intelligent and working on their behalf, and actually independent of your planet. Not everyone in the universe is consumed with thinking about Urantia. There are those of us who care very deeply about Urantia, but there are others who are less concerned and about their own business, you might say, on their own planets, in their own solar systems.

So, it is simply to raise the level of consciousness of humanity on your planet to stop thinking that they are, in fact, the center of the universe when they are not. And so, these communications, whether they are believed or not believed, are simply part of the overall big picture. So, I would encourage you to be as honest and authentic as possible, because once these things become clear to those who read your material, they will appreciate the fact that you have given them a very clear message from the very beginning without warping it or misshaping any part of the communication or characters involved. I hope this answers your question.

Jacques: Yes, Asiah, yes, it completely answers our question. To widen the mind of the people and their consciousness about there is something else, and the Earth is not the center of the universe. This is what we understand. Thank you for that.

Bob, do you have a follow-up question or something particular for Asiah?

4. Focusing Humanity on Its Own Planetary Evolution

Bob: I was wondering, when we’re talking about the Earth, can we compare it to other planets that have had similar situations about the environment and things that we have here to show that it is not an uncommon problem for people to deal with, how they handle their surroundings and their planet?

Asiah: In response to your curiosity question, it would be a bit of a challenge to try to help the people of your planet to understand what has happened on millions and billions of other planets across this galaxy, let alone the entire universe that you live in. And so, it is best to stick with the understanding that we are one of many millions and billions of planets here in your solar system, your galaxy, and this universe, and that there is a very high probability that other planets have encountered something similar.

The difference is, that you here are on an experimental planet, which is a decimal planet, which is not very common. So, it’s not fair to say that other planets do experience what you have experienced. They are much more orderly, have been created with more order than what you have experienced, and they certainly haven’t had the rebellion experience that your planet has had.

So, it would be more preferred that you simply stick with the facts of your planet. And the fact that there is an administration that is overseeing your growth and evolution in this time period, rather than focus on what’s happening on other planets, because, of course, you could not ever prove that.

However, people will experience a connection with the Planetary Management Team if they do invite them as Machiventa has suggested. This is a free will opportunity to connect with your Celestial Planetary Management Team. And we invite all of those who are willing to move forward in human evolution at this period of time and want to build a greater civilization to actually reach out to us.

This is the purpose of our communication. And we would like to share that message with as many people as possible. Thank you.

Jacques: Thank you, Asiah. Bob? Is that okay for you?

Bob: It’s fine. In fact, that’s a good way to approach it, I think, because even though we’re not the center of the universe, we need to learn now to deal with our situation here on this planet. And we need to address it as an experimental world, not a regular world, because the differences are all there. I believe that’s important. I really do feel that we have much to learn about how this world works, and how we can address it.

Kona: Thank you, are there any further questions?

Jacques: I think we need to read again what Asiah have said to us today. And from that, elaborate some structure/contents for this magazine.

5. A Message of Confidence and Divine Guidance

Asiah: Thank you so much, and if I could add one more encouraging word, it would be for you to have confidence that, in fact, your readership is out there, and they are waiting for this information. So do not be discouraged in how you present the material. Trust your instincts in your presenting. Work with your Thought Adjusters and your assigned Celestials, and the minutiae, as we said, we would guide you. And just trust that your audience is there. We will guide them to you. We want them to receive this message and this magazine, and we will be there to assist in all aspects of it. Thank you so much.

Jacques: Thank you so much Asiah, thank you, Kona.

Kona: Awesome. So, it sounds like we just need to proceed positively, and just trust the process, and not be too worried about how people receive it. They may or may not accept it. I mean, how many people laughed at Noah when he was building the ark?

Jacques: I think it’s clear. The general idea, the area, there is a plan. We are not alone. Not too much detail, but there are other planets, there is an administration, you have support.

Kona: yes

End Part 1 with Celestial

Group discussion continued

Jacques: Even though all our problems can be solved if we go within to search for answers.

Kona: Yeah, I mean, even Donna shares things from the Galactic Federation. There are lots of things coming into the planet, and there are massive amounts of readers out there for even things like that. So, I think that we don’t need to be afraid of using the names. We need to be very clear, very authentic in presenting. I mean, we call ourselves the Center for Planetary Management. We have a connection with a celestial planetary management team, so let’s be clear and confident about that. And, you know, people are not going to necessarily believe us. Three of my kids are not going to believe me. I live with one, and he mostly believes me, right? But our families are not necessarily going to believe that. Say, here it is, I’m leaving it with you. If you don’t believe it, that’s fine. Let’s not make it a point of contention in our household. I love you anyway, you love me.

Jacques: Yes.

Kona: Life as usual, but this is the message to the world for whoever wants to receive it. And I think if we take that fear factor out of how people are going to receive it, we will proceed much more quickly.

Jacques: So I think I need to extract this part. I have the timing here, it would be very easy for me.

Kona: Okay.

Jacques: And then from this, we start to build something very quickly. If you yourself work on the TRing explaining the technique, so this is your part.

Kona: And the spiritual connection, the spiritual meaning-making.

Jacques: Yes, yes, yes. And we look at this particular part on the previous message, but I think we need to start to work now.

Kona: What about the syllabus? Have you thought about the parts of the syllabus that will fit into this, introducing the syllabus?

Jacques: There is already a syllabus article introduction which exists.

Kona: Right, so if I pull up Miro real quick, give me a second. Okay, so if we are here, right? You have all this work on the syllabus. I just think that we begin introducing the syllabus, and take what’s been written, and figure this out, and apply it to the magazine.

Jacques: Okay.

Kona: As an introduction, and why, you know, it can be part of the teaching mission, just figure out what that looks like, but we want people to participate in the syllabus over time. And that’s one of our core pieces.

Jacques: Okay, so we’ll work on that. I have noticed, so you will work on TRing. I will prepare this text here and see what from previous messages we have, we can gather on one single document.

Kona: Right.

Jacques: We have, apart from that, something about the international perspective.

Kona: Right. We have a beginning of that.

Jacques: Yeah.

Kona: Now, what I don’t know, and I know we’re a little bit past time, and we were a little bit late, so I don’t know what time schedule you guys are on for Juan, the parts that he was doing. Now, he created the video, and I can email him about which program he used to create the podcast. And if he can’t get back online because of electricity, he may be able to at least email enough through his phone to tell us how to create the podcast, and then we can start doing that. But today’s May 8th, so I think in the next week, we should probably have something.

If we go to our categories, we have an introduction to the Design Team Method. We just need to tailor it to this message. I’ll do TRs. We have the introduction to the syllabus. This is the spiritual meaning-making. Bob, you’ve prepared your introductions to sustainability. So, I think we’re on track. Let’s try to get those core articles done or pieces, you know, almost done. I don’t know if I’ll be able to do it. I’ve got kid duty all weekend. The next time I’ll be able to touch this is probably depending on how things go with the kids Sunday or Monday in trying to do this. But in the meantime, sometimes I’m up late, Spirit will keep me up late.

Jacques: Yeah.

Kona: And I can work through some of these. But we’ll try to stay on track for June. And whatever we get done, we plan on publishing on June 1st. If we don’t get it all done, we publish what we get done, and then we add.

Jacques: Yeah.

Kona: But in the meantime, if you want to test certain articles, publish them on Substack.

Jacques: No.

Kona: Right? Publish an introduction to the syllabus on Substack, and say more coming in our digital online magazine. So I’ll have to start on the marketing for that, too.

Jacques: You suggest that I publish the introduction article of the syllabus already on Substack, okay.

Kona: Sure. Yeah, just explain what it is, and what the syllabus is, and how it came about, and say over time, this will be a full series in the online digital magazine. And if they’re interested, they can subscribe to the magazine to get more information. So I think that’s probably good for today, and then next week, we’ll start at 10 a.m. Eastern Standard Time on Tuesdays.

Jacques: Okay, I will do that. Yeah, it’s okay.

Kona: And Fridays, and I’ll reset my calendar and send out a message, and we’ll just pray that Juan gets electricity, and that Evan will be able to join us as well.

Jacques: Okay.

Kona: Alright, you two, I appreciate you both. I appreciate your time and attention to this work, and for staying strong in your faith in our Celestial Planetary Management Team, right? Alright, Bob, have a great day. Let me stop the recording. And Jacques do you have the transcript now?

Jacques: Of course.

PostedAugust 15, 2026

UpdatedAugust 15, 2026

ByJuan Ramirez

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