Friday – Session Tuesday 28 Jan 2025

Present: Kona Mahu, Juan Ramirez, Steffen Patrick, Jacques Reverseau

Note: This transcript is slightly edited for ease of use.

TR : Kona Mahu, Facilitator: Jacques Reverseau

Centering moment as a Team by jacques

Jacques: My dear friends, even if there are few of us today, we are enough to accomplish the important work we are here for. So, now it is time to center ourselves. Please take some deep breaths, breathe slowly, breathe deeply. Now, relax your body and muscles. Allow your mind to be quiet. Stay relaxed, continue to breath. Connect to your Inner Self and your Guardian Angels, because they are waiting for your permission to connect. Connect between us now, in this circle all around the world. Connect heart to heart, mind to mind, spirit to spirit. As we are in this bubble of light, we ask Celestial assistance for us. We also connect to those who are watching us. We are part of this big realm of planets, architectural planets, and a great universe. We have friends on other planets dedicated to assist us too. So now, let’s stay silent for a few minutes.

Opening Prayer by Kona

Kona: Hello, everyone! I will offer a warm welcome and then I think Sondjah is here with us.

Prayer: Our celestial team, including Chris, Michael, Mother Nebadonia, Machiventa, Sondjah, Monjoronson, and those Without Name and Number who are aligned with the Light and Life in the First Source and Center, we welcome you into this space. We give you warm greetings and salutations. We are thrilled that you would take the time to be with us and turn your attention this way, even for a few minutes. We give you our gratitude, peace, love, friendship, and joy. Thank you for connecting with us and allowing us to connect with you. I yield myself to the voice that determines to come through from this group of celestials who are so graceful with us.

Main Address by Sondjah

Sondjah: Good morning, this is Sondjah. I bring you greetings from the Team on this side and from those who join us from the further reaches of the universes and the Sea of Glass [the group were smiling]. You will be happy to know, Jacques, that we have friends participating in this conversation today. Thank you for that warm welcome and connection to all of us. We do greatly appreciate this every time. As for a message for you today, you have discussed some of the things on our agenda, such as the timelines you are dealing with on your planet for some of the chaos and narrowing down to a more calm period of time. Yes, the timeline from 2025 to 2032 is going to be quite significant period for your planet. As we have said before, this man Trump is quite the “change maker” and opens the door for us to make significant changes with the disruptions he will cause. It will not always be pleasant, but it is necessary disruption for us to realign the institutions on the planet with the will of Christ Michael and the First Source and Center, so that this planet can function more systematically and in accordance with the Universal Laws and the Divine Plan set aside for Urantia.

This is quite a challenge for you now right now, but as we have said before do not dismay. We are with you in number, greater than you could possibly imagine. You are all surrounded by your Guardians, Helpers, Angels, and even others that you are not aware of, which are assigned to you for your personal well-being as we grow this message on the planet.

As, for today, you have significant work to move forward with. And we are very excited that you are taking these steps towards accomplishing some of the goals we have set-up for you and we have worked on together. I will take brief questions today, but then you must focus on your work at hand. Thank you again for inviting us to this space.

Jacques: Thank you, Sondjah, for your kind words and the good news from the Sea of Glass. We love these Beings there and even if we cannot imagine how they look like, we know, that one day we’ll meet them there. Again, thank you very much. Who has a question for Sondjah?

Dialogue & Discussion with Sondjah

Steffen: Thank you, Sondjah, for your message. So, if I understand correctly, looking from a short-term perspective, these disruptions will be unpleasant. However, from a long-term perspective, I get that you “Guys” are seeing that as an opportunity. It appears that some institutions will be completely dismantled, and after that has taken place, there will be an opportunity to rebuild them at some point, when all these people doing this dismantling are gone. Is that correct?

Sondjah: You are interpreting that quite right. It is very difficult to build Rome on top of Rome. Rome had to fall before it could be rebuilt. It had a purpose for its period of time and then it was no longer a viable place to live or be. So, it had to be destroyed, and of course, we used a “crazy person” to do that. This is not dissimilar to the fall of Rome, in which these things must be dismantled because they are far too unwieldy to reform in the short amount of time that is necessary for us to execute Christ Michael’s plan on the planet. It is necessary for us to have a quick dismantling in order to save you from a greater destruction that would be the potential in the future. So, think of it as briefly being uncomfortable for the longer greater good. Does that answer your question?

Steffen: Yes, absolutely it does. It not only answers the question but also allows us to keep it in perspective because we’re watching this crazy person disrupting everything. But in the long term, he’s probably doing us a favour. Am I right about that?

Sondjah: Absolutely this is true, many times “a disruptor” like this is necessary. From your perspective, you operate in a judgmental frame of mind and with a human value system that is a little dissimilar from ours. For instance, if we are trying to get the attention of a person through positive means and they do not respond, then our

“Angels of destruction” have to come in and play a role to capture people’s attention when they do not pay attention to the nice message. People misinterpret this as punishment, but we all work together for the same purpose. Some people do not listen unless, like you might say to a child, “you yell”. It is our way of “yelling” to have an agent of destruction disrupt a system when the nicer methods do not work.

Research via The Correcting Time Scholarly Insights gives this answer: Who are the Angels of Destruction?

The concept of Angels of Destruction is not typically found within the teachings of the celestial personalities associated with The Urantia Book or the Correcting Time revelations. However, there are certain celestial beings, such as the Most Highs, the Ancients of Days, and the Power Directors, who administer divine justice and planetary affairs, including necessary actions of correction and purification.

A More Correct View: Evolution, Not Destruction

The Correcting Time is not about destruction, but about transformation and renewal. Even what seems like destruction (wars, societal collapses) is often the natural consequence of failing to align with the 7 Core Values of Social Sustainability—Life, Equality, Growth, Quality of Life, Compassion, Empathy, and Love.

Steffen: Thank you, thank you very much.

Sondjah: Certainly, it is a hard concept for humans to understand this balance between destruction & and renewal. There some are good Angels that have a very specific purpose to do destructive things, and it is not a form of punishment. It is part of the process, and not many people can receive this, because they think that good only looks one way. The greater good is entirely our purpose, and sometimes we have to use very specific means to accomplish this. It is not ever intended as a punishment because, as you know, the First Source and Center is not a punishing God. This is a misinterpretation from a very frail and primitive religious mindset. This one knows this intimately, as she has studied this for quite some time.

Steffen: It’s very enlightening. Thank you, Sondjah.

Sondjah: You’re most welcome.

Jacques: Thank you, Sondjah. Juan, do you have a question for Sondjah?

Juan: We could then infer that what happened in Venezuela was something similar. To have an “agent of change”, someone destructive, who destroyed the whole country and is still destroying it and it is still ongoing. Could we interpret that as an agent of change as well?

Sondjah: Thank you so much for that comparison. It is very important that you seek guidance on every situation, because not every destroyer is intended to be an agent of change. Sometimes they are still part of the rebellion and are simply being disruptive. Very few times do we actually have to put an agent of change into place like this. Very often you are seeing the remnants of the rebellion in their situation, and they are losing power.

We have discussed this situation in Venezuela with you before, as a part of the rebellion that has lingered on a little bit too long. Yes, they have caused a great deal of destruction, yet we have supported your people so they may grow in this process and learn and be strengthened even under the circumstances. As you are able to sit without fear, you can tell that you have been strengthened, regardless of the political circumstances around you. Do not always assume that the destroyer in place is an agent of change. But ask your Thought Adjuster and Guardian Angels, or even myself, if you wish, about more specifics on the circumstances.

This man Trump is quite clearly an agent of change and to some degree a madman. He is not quite right in his mind, even though we have supported his election. We have done so in order for him to make the necessary changes in dismantling a system that is unwieldy and unable to be changed in a short amount of time. As you can tell, he is impacting almost every other government system on the planet with the changes he is making. And so, it is like a domino effect in putting him in place. Everyone is having to wake up immediately and pay attention or face a certain destruction in their own space. It is not our preferred method, but we found it quite necessary under the circumstances. Thank you.

Juan: Thank you Sondjah. Yes, the answer seems very correct to me. And I understand it…I am absolutely sure that it is so, that it is a remnant of the rebellion because it has all the characteristics of evil people. Thank you.

Sondjah: Thank you for that comment, and you made a very important observation about the characteristics of evil people. That is a very important observation to think about. The older Scripture says you shall know them by their fruits, and the fruits of evil are always more evil. In this situation with this man Trump, you will find chaos, but not always evil. It will simply take things apart and make room for new things.

And Steffen, you made a very important point earlier in your observations as well: people will have to learn how to live differently and not rely upon the systems which they previously relied on. This is an important step in their awakening. Your government was never intended to replace the First Source and Center, but it was set up by the rebellion in order to take people’s minds and hearts off the possibility of the First Source and Center being exactly that—the First Source and Center—as the supplier of all needs. Until people learn to turn back to the First Source and Center, they will never find true happiness or joy. They will rely upon a faulty braking system and be constantly disappointed. So, it is important to dismantle a system that is blinding people from the truth. The truth really is that they are deeply cared for and loved. As you know, this is the most important message a person can receive, and if they rely on a system outside of the First Source and Center, they will not make this connection. I hope that helps you better understand the plan and have faith in the process.

Jacques: Thank you, Sondjah. Yes, the message is very clear. We see what is happening on the planet slowly but surely—not only from the people, but also about the mess we have made on this planet. There’re all these trashes around the world, the pollution in the sea and in the water and everywhere. So, we see it, as a very difficult time, because the water and even the air are becoming poisoned. We understand the urgency, and it’s comforting to know that beings from Nebadon but also outside Nebadon and from other universes are helping us. Sondjah, we need this help to succeed in this task. Now, it’s about discussing what we can do and offer to this planet as soon as possible. That was my comment, Sondjah.

Sondjah: Thank you for changing the focus to rebuilding after the destruction. Yes, you are called to help with that rebuilding process. So, shall we move on?

Steffen: I would just say that your message gave me a certain degree of comfort with what’s going on right now. It makes it much more palatable, because not knowing what’s going on, makes it harder to have faith. For me, the turning point was when I started to understand how this was all put together—as far as The Urantia Book, revelations, and the transcripts. It gave me a great deal of faith and hope. Knowing there is a plan and that this isn’t just chaos run amok, gives me a great deal of comfort, and it makes me want to continue in this process. Thank you for that.

Sondjah: You are very welcome, and I am grateful that it does solidify the hope that resides within you. This is extremely important. We would not want you to lose hope in any way. You are an important key in spreading this message. So, do have great hope and understand that we are intimately involved in all of the changes on the planet. Sometimes, you must take something apart before you can rebuild it properly, and that is simply what we are doing.

Steffen: That makes perfect sense. Thank you, Sondjah.

Sondjah: You’re very welcome, my friends.

Jacques: That be all for now?

Group: Yes, thank you, Sondjah.

Sondjah: You’re welcome, and remember I am here with you. If you need to call on me at any time during your meeting, I am simply an ask away and present with you. Thank you so much.

Group: Thank you so much Sondjah and thank you, Kona. Wow!

Kona: You’re welcome!

End of the Dialogue & Discussion with Sondjah

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Summary and Considerations on this Transcript 20250128

Earth’s Transformation and the Divine Plan

This transcript details a team session held in January 2025, featuring participants Kona Mahu, Juan Ramirez, Steffen Patrick, and Jacques Reverseau. During the session, facilitated by Jacques Reverseau, the team engages in a guided meditation and a welcoming prayer to celestial entities. An entity named Sondjah delivers a central message about profound planetary changes anticipated between 2025 and 2032. This includes the role of a disruptive figure, referred to as “Trump,” in dismantling outdated systems to enable a reconstruction aligned with divine principles.

The discussion explores the concept of “agents of change,” distinguishing between intentional destruction aimed at progress and the repercussions of rebellion. Emphasis is placed on the importance of faith and hope in trusting the divine plan, even amid upheaval.

How does the divine plan describe Earth’s transformation in 2025 according to these sources?

According to the provided sources, the divine plan describes Earth’s transformation starting in 2025 as a significant period lasting until 2032. This era is expected to be marked by necessary chaos and disruptions to realign planetary institutions with the will of Christ Michael and the First Center and Source . The ultimate goal is for Earth to function more systematically in harmony with Universal Laws and the Divine Plan established for Urantia (Earth).

A key aspect of this plan involves certain individuals labeled “agents of change” or “disruptors,” specifically referencing the figure of Trump. According to Sondjah, these figures—though often unsettling and appearing “unhinged” or “irrational”—are used to dismantle systems too rigid or corrupt to be reformed quickly. This destruction is framed as necessary to prevent greater future collapse and to prepare the way for reconstruction.

Crucially, while “agents of destruction” are mentioned, Sondjah and The Correcting Time Scholarly Insights clarify that this is not punitive destruction but a process of transformation and renewal. Actions perceived as destructive often stem from misalignment with the 7 Fundamental Values of Social Sustainability .

The underlying purpose of these disruptions is to awaken humanity, urging people to realize they must not rely on rebellious systems that distance them from the First Center and Source. The aim is for humanity to reconnect with the First Center and Source as the provider of all needs, leading to true happiness and fulfillment.

In summary, the divine plan for Earth’s transformation post-2025 involves necessary disruptions facilitated by “agents of change” to dismantle outdated systems and realign the planet with divine will. Though chaotic and uncomfortable in the short term, this process is deemed essential for long-term spiritual renewal and alignment with the First Center and Source.

What role does Trump play in the divine plan according to Sondjah?

According to Sondjah, Trump serves a pivotal role as an “agent of change” in the divine plan for Earth. He is portrayed as a necessary “disruptor” to catalyze the transformations required for planetary realignment.

Specifically, Sondjah explains:

• Trump is a “game-changer” who opens the door for significant shifts on Earth.
• His disruptions, though unpleasant, are necessary to realign institutions with the will of Christ Michael and the First Center and Source. The goal is for Earth to operate systematically in harmony with Universal Laws and the Divine Plan for Urantia.
• Trump is described as “an agent of change and, to some extent, a madman,” indicating his unconventional or seemingly irrational methods from a human perspective.
• Despite his flaws, his election was supported by the “Celestial Team” to dismantle a “clumsy” system resistant to rapid reform.
• His actions create a “domino effect,” impacting global governmental systems and forcing widespread awakening and attention.
• While not the Celestial Team’s preferred method, his role was deemed “necessary given the circumstances.”
• The chaos he generates is not inherently evil; its purpose is to “disarm existing structures and make space for new ones.”
• Ultimately, Trump’s role aligns with a broader plan to dismantle systems blocking humanity’s connection to the First Center and Source, fostering spiritual awakening and recognition of divine provision.

In essence, Sondjah frames Trump as an imperfect yet instrumental catalyst for dismantling entrenched systems, enabling Earth’s realignment with the divine plan—even if his methods provoke controversy and discomfort.

What time period is considered significant for the planet?

According to Sondjah, the period from 2025 to 2032 is regarded as highly significant for the planet. During these years, necessary chaos and disruptions are expected to occur to realign Earth’s institutions with the will of Christ Michael and the First Center and Source . This era is seen as critical for the planet to function more systematically and in alignment with Universal Laws and the Divine Plan established for Urantia (Earth).

What is the fundamental purpose of the “destruction” mentioned for the planet?

The fundamental purpose of the “destruction” described is not annihilation or punishment but a necessary process of dismantling and realignment for long-term greater good. Sondjah explains that sometimes “you must dismantle something before you can rebuild it properly.”

Specific purposes of this “destruction” include:

• Realigning planetary institutions with the will of Christ Michael and the First Center and Source, ensuring Earth operates systematically under Universal Laws and the Divine Plan.
• Dismantling entrenched systems too rigid or corrupt to reform quickly, which were established by rebellion and distance humanity from the First Center and Source.
• Preventing greater future destruction by addressing systemic flaws now.
• Capturing the attention of those unresponsive to positive messages, using “agents of destruction” to create impactful disruptions.
• Clearing space for “new things” by removing outdated structures.
• Awakening humanity to reject reliance on rebellious systems and reconnect with the First Center and Source as the true provider of fulfillment.

Sondjah emphasizes this “destruction” is not punitive but a transformative process, albeit uncomfortable, to renew the planet. Trump is cited as an example of a disruptive “agent of change” facilitating this dismantling.

How does Sondjah describe “this man Trump”?

Sondjah describes “this man Trump” as follows:

• A “game-changer” who “opens the door for the Celestial Team to enact significant changes through the disruptions he causes.”
• A clear “agent of change” and, to some extent, “a madman” , implying his behavior may appear irrational or unconventional.
• Someone “not entirely sane” (despite his election being supported by the Celestial Team) who serves as an instrument to dismantle a “clumsy system” resistant to rapid reform.
• A catalyst creating a “domino effect” , impacting global governance and forcing widespread awakening.
• A figure whose methods, though not preferred by the Celestial Team, were deemed “necessary under the circumstances.”
• The chaos he generates is not inherently evil but serves to “disarm existing structures and make space for new ones.”

In summary, Sondjah portrays Trump as a disruptive, unconventional figure—partially “mad”—instrumental in dismantling obsolete systems to prepare Earth for divine realignment, despite the resulting turmoil.